OBJECTION: In all the Bible, nowhere is the Passover called "supper." In the multitude of references to Passover in the Old Testament or new or even by our LORD, it is not referred to as supper!

"And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD’S passover." (Exodus 12:11, KJV)

 Certainly our LORD, did not even refer to the Passover as supper. "And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat." (Luke 22:8, KJV)

 "And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:" (Luke 22:15, KJV)

 The LORD’S Supper is referred to as "Supper," but not Passover!

 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:  For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God.  And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:  For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. Likewise also the cup AFTER SUPPER, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. Luke 22:15-21 (The WHOLE PASSAGE in Context)

EVANS ANSWER: AFTER SUPPER! Brother, you are done before you start. The bread and cup were distributed AFTER SUPPER. What supper is that? The Lord's SUPPER? You mean it was after the Lord's Supper that Jesus distributed the elements? I thought it was during or before??? While we understand your argument from silence in the O.T., we cannot abide your conclusion from it that it demands that the word supper is not used for the Passover Supper in the N.T. as is the case here in Luke. Peter's account, to be covered later, also demonstrates in John 21 that the Passover was a Supper.

Now, we also cannot abide your pitting one Bible word against the other to rid yourself of one of the words in regard to the PASSOVER SUPPER. The Passover was both the PASSOVER and a SUPPER. The use of one word does not void the use of another word in my Bible.

This tactic does not make any homiletical sense. Also, if we were to take your approach to the very exact O.T. terminology, we would have to demand that they really did not eat the Passover, since they were sitting while they ate and did not have a staff in their hands and they surely did not eat it in haste. So much for circular arguments and arguments from silence.

OBJECTION: Brother Herb says there is no sop in the Lord’s Supper, which is true! But in the entire Bible there is no reference to a sop in the Passover either!!!! I did think that was a cute touch #5 in the sequence of events (desert time) I never read of "desert time" at the LORD’S Passover! This feast that reminds God’s people of the Power of the Blood and foreshadows the coming of our LORD, "desert time??"

 Exo 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.

 Num 9:11 The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.

EVANS ANSWER: Well, that is merely all that it was, "a cute touch"--not to be equated with Lemon Meringue pie. Ah, but you have erred here in another argument from silence. The SOP may not have been mentioned in the O.T. along with horseradish, but bitter Herbs and unleavened bread were mentioned (I have been equated with a bitter Herb by my enemies). Literally, they dunked (dipped) their doughnut (morsel) in the horseradish dip (bitter herbs) as they finished the  meal by dipping in a dish, when they came back from foot washing.  More on the dish later.

OBJECTION: At the LORD’S Supper . . .

EVANS ANSWER: Please no "dogmatic assertions" or "supposition" of what has not yet been established. I say, "During the Passover supper. . ."

OBJECTION CONTINUED: . . . when the LORD announced that one was going to betray Him it says of the Apostles, "And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? and another said, Is it I?" (Mark 14:19, KJV)

But at the sop dipping, and we know of only one person who took the sop, "When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake. Now there was leaning on Jesus’ bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved. Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. He then lying on Jesus’ breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?" (John 13:21-25, KJV)

 The LORD’S Supper produced self examination (indeed as it always should). But at the taking of the sop they did not say "LORD is it I" but rather they wanted our LORD to tell them who it was.

EVANS ANSWER: Now, to equate being possibly accused of something and responding, Is it I?" saying that it is Lord's Supper self examination is the epitome of private interpretation.  This so called self examination occurred during the Passover and not the Lord's Supper, according to your own proof Text (Mark 14:19 with 14:22) below.

OBJECTION CONTINUED: Notice in John 13:2

 "And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon‘s son, to betray Him;"

 Verse four, "He riseth from supper, laid aside His garments…"

 The whole foot washing and sop experience took place after the Supper, "Supper being ended!" This is not Passover ended because Passover is never called "supper" in the Bible! Passover was the partaking of a required feast!

EVANS ANSWER: Luke 22:3  Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve.

John 13:27  And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

Yes the foot washing did take place after the Supper, namely, the Passover Supper. Two, four, six, eight, who can't pontificate? Satan messed with Judas before the supper, after the supper, and after the SOP.

Again, you forgot about Luke's account, where the Passover Supper is called a supper. View it as "after the Passover Supper being ended," and you'll have it. Supper is the main or chief part of the meal or the meal in entirety. You have two symbolic meals or suppers here and a foot washing that occurs sequentially in between; noth- ing is hard about that.                     

OBJECTOR: Also if you read your Bible carefully, you will see that the LORD’S Supper was instituted during the eating of the Passover [No! It was instituted after the Passover Supper – Evans].

 "And as they sat and did eat [eat what? the sop and dip, of course--Evans], Jesus said, Verily I say unto you, One of you which eateth with me shall betray me." (Mark 14:18, KJV)

 "And as they [who are the they? --Evans] did eat [what were they eating, the sops and dip, of course -- Evans], Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body." (Mark 14:22, KJV) [After the SOP, after the foot washing--Evans]

EVANS ANSWER: And they began to be sorrowful, and to say unto him one by one, Is it I? [Your Lord's Supper self examination?] and another said, Is it I? And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve [Judas included], that dippeth with me in the dish. The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born. And as they [who are the they? The twelve minus Judas!--Evans] did eat [continued to eat what? The sops and dip, of course--Evans], Jesus [then] took bread [after Judas went out], and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said, Take, eat: this is my body. And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it. --Mark 14:19-23

No, they were eating dipped sops, when they came back to the table. Conveniently, you switch from John's account to Mark's account, which seals your error. I read Mark 14 carefully after your verse 18 and discovered from Mark 14 that the self examination that you talk about and the dipping bread in the dish (bitter herbs) and the revelation of betrayal all occur before the eating and drinking of the Lord's Supper.

Note the paragraph break symbol that begins verse 22. This was after the foot washing and after the return to the table in John 13. It was also after Judas left after being given the SOP.

OBJECTOR: Why would the LORD institute the LORD’S SUPPER while eating the Passover? Because, "Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:"

EVANS ANSWER: He didn't. He instituted it after the Passover and after the SOP and after the foot washing. What He did do is lay out and explain the elements prior to the foot washing.

OBJECTOR: (1 Corinthians 5:7, KJV) By the way, why would our LORD serve Judas the Passover which is symbolic of Himself?

EVANS ANSWER: That is simple, all Israelites, saved or lost were to partake of the Passover, which was a deliverance of them all, including the mixed multitude. The secondary meaning of the Passover was to be revealed later.

OBJECTOR: Read these passages in context and it is very clear that these two events, Passover and the LORD’S Supper, were done simultaneously.

EVANS ANSWER: Not if John's account is to be taken seriously as well as the paragraph breaks (see symbols). It is very clear that there was a break away from the table and a return to it after the foot washing.

OBJECTOR: And by the thirteenth chapter of John both were complete. In John 13, Only Judas ate. The only mention of "sop" in the Bible.

EVANS ANSWER: And he answered and said, He that dippeth his hand with me in the dish, the same shall betray me. -- Matt. 26:23

Mar 14:20  And he answered and said unto them, It is one of the twelve, that dippeth with me in the dish. -- Mark 14:20

Well, actually, you have to be more than a Concordance Clarence to see the other places above. mark sounds here like 12 dipped the sop.

OBJECTOR: No Hymn. No going out. Just an incredible illustration of love the demonstrated by our LORD (foot washing), and more warnings to Judas.

EVANS ANSWER: This is true, along with a couple of chapters of preaching in between the Lord’s Supper and the soldiers and Judas coming for Christ in the Garden.

OBJECTOR: By the way, with your doctrine on Judas, since nobody knew who our LORD was warning, why was Judas warned so many times?

EVANS ANSWER: I dunno! Do you?

The Foot Washing

And The Supper

By Herb Evans

Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, BUT NOT ALL. For he knew who should betray him; therefore said he, Ye are not all clean . . . I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me. -- John 13:10, 11, 18

After the Passover Supper meal is ended, you have the foot washing with Judas included along with a disclaimer from Jesus that not all were clean and that He had an enemy eating bread with Him, during the Passover Supper. There is a break here for the foot washing, and they return to the table afterwards and continue to eat. This is when the SOP is given.

. . . he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me. Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake. Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved. Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake. He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it? Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon. And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. Now no man AT THE TABLE knew for what intent he spake this unto him. . . He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it was night. --John 13:21-30

Then Peter . . . seeth the disciple whom Jesus loved following; which also leaned on his breast at supper, and said, Lord, which is he that betrayeth thee? -- John 21:20

The significant thing, in John's, account is that the Passover SUPPER is ended in John 13:2, as you remind us, but shoot yourself in the foot with, for afterwards, we find a disciple leaning on Jesus' breast in John 13:23-25, after the foot washing and after they return to the table for  . . .  ah . . . horseradish dip, and Lo, we have Peter saying that he leaned on Jesus' breast "AT SUPPER."  What SUPPER? Passover Supper of course! The Lord’s SUPPER comes after the Passover and the SOP in John 13:26, 27.

Unfortunately, nothing in John 13 even hints at the Lord's Supper. The dogmatic assertion that the SUPPER MUST BE the Lord's Supper and not the Passover SUPPER is to be ignored in Light of Luke's account. If you would have read the rest of John, which has the complete account prior to the Lord's Supper, you would not have erred so dramatically.

ORDER OF EVENTS

We can place Judas at the Passover and at the table and at the SOP dipping . We can also place Judas as dipping his SOP in the dish, something that you do not do at the Lord's supper. After the Passover Supper, Jesus instituted the Lord's Supper. Judas was no longer there anymore than Judas went out and sung a hymn and went to the Mount of Olives. We contend that the Sequence of events were as follows:

1.  Judas went to the Chief priests to betray Jesus for money (Matt. 26:14; Mark 14:10; Luke 23:2-6)

2. They all ate the Passover Supper (Mark 14:17)

3. After the Passover Super was ended, the devil puts it in Judas' heart to betray Jesus; Jesus washes all their feet and tells them that they are not all clean, meaning Judas  (John 13:2-11)

4. They were told that they were not ALL CLEAN.  (John 13:11)

5.  they set down again at the table to dip the sop (desert time).  (John 13:12, 28)

6. They are told there that one of them would betray Jesus.  (John 13:21)

7. They all asked, including Judas, "Is it I?" and who it was. (Matt. 26:25; John 13;22-25)

8. They are all told that the one that dippeth the SOP with Him will betray Him. (John 13:26; Mark 14:18-20)

9. Judas is told that he is the one and given the SOP. (John 1327, 30)

10. After being given the SOP, Judas IMMEDIATELY goes out from them and goes to the chief  priests. -- John 13:1- 30

11. Jesus institutes the Lord's Supper with the eleven.  (Matt. 26:26; Mark 14:22-25; Luke 22:19-20)

12.  Jesus Preaches (John 13:31 to John 18:1)

13. The eleven sing a Hymn  (Mark 14:46).

14. The eleven go out to the Mount of Olives and the Garden of Gethsemene (John 18:1; Luke 22:39)

15. Judas Guides Jesus' enemies to Him betraying him with a kiss (Matt. 26:47; Mark 14:43; Luke 22:47,48; Acts 1:16; John 18:2-5)

16. Judas repents himself, hangs himself, goes to his own place (Matt. 27:3; Acts 1:25)